The Ken Carman Show with Anthony Lima

Full Show: Monday, October 12, 2026

Ken Carman and Nick Pedone celebrate the Cleveland Guardians' advancement to the ALCS while dissecting the Cleveland Browns' disappointing performance against the New York Jets. They analyze Deshaun Watson's struggles in inclement weather and react to Nick Pedone's infamous take on which team's victory matters most to the city. They also evaluate coaching decisions by Stephen Vogt and address the controversial hit on Kevin "KC" Concepcion. (00:02:58) Guardians Advance, Browns Lose (00:06:44) Watson's Performance Evaluated (00:11:09) Special Teams Disastrous Loss (00:15:18) Explaining Ken's Emotions (00:23:33) Browns' Historical Comparison (00:28:45) Personnel And Depth Concerns (00:33:47) Pedone's Controversial Friday Take (00:40:53) Caller Tim Critiques Coaching (00:46:50) KC Concepcion's Importance (00:54:50) Columbus Day Parade Plans (01:03:12) Previewing Rays Playoff Series (01:12:31) Stephen Vogt's Management Decisions (01:23:35) Sign Stealing Accusations Addressed (01:30:36) Browns' Running Game Struggles (01:41:43) Daryl Ruiter Joins Show (01:56:29) Evaluating Guardians' Success (02:08:24) Caller Tony On Payroll (02:19:54) Minkah Fitzpatrick Hit Fallout (02:26:24) Monken Defends Fitzpatrick Hit (02:36:58) Deshaun Watson's Future Outlook

Hour 1: Nick Wilson Is Crazy For Wanting a Browns Win Over Guardians ALCS Berth

Ken Carman and Nick Pedone analyze a bittersweet weekend for Cleveland sports as the Guardians advance to the ALCS while the Browns suffer a sloppy loss to the Jets. They discuss why Ken feels more relief than rage following the football defeat and critique Deshaun Watson's play in inclement weather. The conversation also highlights a controversial take from Pedone regarding his preference for a regular-season Browns win over a playoff baseball victory.(00:01:50) Guardians Move to ALCS(00:05:20) Browns Sloppy Loss Analysis(00:09:55) Watson and Weather Performance(00:15:45) Coaching and Expectations Debate(00:21:45) Wide Receiver Depth Concerns(00:26:25) Browns Future Playoff Path(00:33:34) Pedone's Infamous Hot Take(00:40:50) Fan Phone Line Reactions

Hour 2: Deshaun Watson's Magic Runs Out in Browns' Team Loss to the Jets

Ken Carman and Nick Pedone dissect Deshaun Watson's struggling performance and the Cleveland Browns' overall team failure in a recent loss. They evaluate whether the criticism of Jose Ramirez's postseason play should finally be put to rest following his clutch hits. The conversation also covers Stephen Vogt's managerial decisions and humorous interactions regarding their boss's willingness to run errands.(00:02:16) Watson's Houston Form(00:05:23) Offensive Line Struggles(00:09:00) Evaluating Watson's Greatness(00:12:23) Boss Errands Debate(00:19:27) Jose Ramirez Defense(00:23:41) Building Jose's Statue(00:27:00) Burrow vs. Watson(00:33:05) Stephen Vogt Criticism(00:43:00) Sign Stealing Allegations

Hour 3: Do We Need To Shelve the Playoff Talk for the Browns?

Ken Carman and Nick Pedone clash over whether to abandon postseason expectations following a disappointing loss to the New York Jets. Daryl Ruiter joins to dissect offensive struggles, Deshaun Watson's performance in bad weather, and the ongoing issues with the run game. They also evaluate the Cleveland Guardians' success as they prepare for the ALCS.(00:02:07) Browns Playoff Talk Debate(00:05:45) Run Game And Coaching(00:11:47) Watson Performance And Analysis(00:16:20) Daryl Ruiter Analysis(00:21:20) Receiver Failures And Defense(00:27:37) Guardians ALCS Success(00:34:30) Watson's Value And Future

Hour 4: Ken Carman Rejects Nick Pedone's "Nuts" Take on Guardians Success

Ken Carman and Nick Pedone evaluate the Cleveland Guardians' playoff run and debate if the season is already a success. They dive into a heated comparison between Browns regular-season importance and ALDS victories while analyzing Deshaun Watson's fumbles on 92.3 The Fan. The conversation also addresses the controversial hit by Minkah Fitzpatrick and Todd Monken's reaction to the injury of KC Concepcion.(00:01:51) Guardians Season Success(00:04:43) MLB Payroll Disparity(00:08:48) Cleveland Team Ownership(00:13:05) World Series Hopes(00:16:40) Browns vs Guardians Debate(00:22:10) Minkah Fitzpatrick Hit(00:27:28) KC Concepcion Injury(00:31:02) Deshaun Watson Magic

Did the Magic Run Out on Deshaun Watson's Browns Comebacks?

Nick Pedone says the clock hit midnight on Deshaun Watson's string of late comebacks after the Jets loss, pointing to his six fumbles in five games and his slow starts, while Ken says Watson wasn't the reason they lost and he still believes in him against the Ravens. They argue over turnover-worthy plays and whether Watson is a middle-of-the-pack quarterback who is no longer a net negative. A caller from Bedford accuses Nick of saying he wouldn't watch the Browns if Watson started, which Nick flatly denies, and Ken signs off with his plans for Little Italy and Guardians game one.

Did Todd Monken Get It Wrong on Minkah Fitzpatrick's Hit?

Ken and Nick Pedone start by piling on Nick Wilson over his Friday take, saying he should apologize since the Guardians won the ALDS and the Browns lost to the Jets. They then pivot to Minkah Fitzpatrick's hit on KC Concepcion, rejecting Todd Monken's "bang-bang play" defense and calling it a dirty, dangerous shot that the NFL should fine him for. They add that Concepcion is probably out against the Ravens, and that Isaiah Bond's drops showed how much the Browns needed him.

Are the Guardians Being Slept On Heading Into the Rays Series?

Ken and Nick Pedone say the Guardians' season is already a success after winning the division and beating the White Sox, but they argue Cleveland has a real shot at the Rays, who are only +140 favorites. Nick points to Tampa's 19th-ranked bullpen ERA and weak home run numbers as a path for Guards ball even with Foster Griffin starting. A caller from Columbia Station praises what the front office does on a small payroll and argues for a salary cap and floor, which sends Ken and Nick into a debate about the Dolans, Dan Gilbert and Jimmy Haslam, and Ken closes by calling out the Friday take that downplayed the series.

Is Deshaun Watson Good Enough to Overcome the Browns' Mistakes?

Ken and Nick Pedone start on whether the Guardians' season is already a success, but Ken first refuses to fake anger over the Browns' loss, saying the Guardians' ALCS berth cushions it. Ken argues Deshaun Watson is no longer a net negative but isn't good enough to overcome the team's mistakes, while Nick points to the four combined targets for Harold Fannin Jr. and Denzel Boston and the lack of a run game as proof the Browns still need a long-term quarterback. Ken keeps the playoff conversation open while admitting the Browns aren't much better than the Jets, then teases the question of whether the Guardians' year is a success.

Daryl Ruiter Says the Browns Blew a Game They Should Have Won

Daryl Ruiter tells Ken and Nick Pedone the Browns blew the Jets game with awful execution and clock management in the final four minutes, plus special teams breakdowns, and he lays blame on Todd Monken, the offense and special teams. He says Quinshawn Judkins and the offensive line have to fix the run game before the weather turns, and he doesn't put the loss on Deshaun Watson, who was sacked eight times, was blitzed constantly and got no help from Isaiah Bond's drops. He won't talk playoffs until November, says a win over the Ravens puts everyone back on the bandwagon, and closes with expectations for Foster Griffin and a tangent about Andy Baskin's missed high five with Paul Dolan.

Why the Guardians Should Feel Great About Facing the Rays

Ken and Nick Pedone walk through Jose Ramirez's huge ALDS comeback numbers and explain why they would rather play the Rays than the Yankees in the ALCS. They credit the Guardians' hot bats, new contributors like Patrick Bailey and Jo Adell, and the rest-versus-rust edge, and call the season a success either way. A caller named Josh compares Ramirez's home run to the Rajai Davis one, and the show ends on a quick ice cream tangent.

Can You Put the Browns' Loss to the Jets on Deshaun Watson?

Ken Carman and Nick Pedone are stunned that anyone is defending Deshaun Watson after a 15-for-33, 155-yard game in which he was sacked eight times and fumbled three, and they pin some of the blame on his pre-snap read of the pressure and the late-game magic running out. Callers from Akron and Cleveland push back that it was a complete team loss, pointing to the offensive line, the lack of a run game, special teams and the Isaiah Bond drop on the final drive. Ken lands on needing to find the right standard for a 30-year-old Watson who isn't Allen, Mahomes or Burrow, while agreeing that benching him isn't even a conversation yet.

Was Nick Wilson Insane to Pick a Browns Win Over the Guardians?

Ken Carman and Nick Pedone address the on-air take that was never dumped, in which Nick Wilson said he wanted a Browns win over the Jets more than a Guardians series clincher. Ken calls it one of the craziest things he has heard on the station and walks through his weekend of Jose Ramirez heroics and Guardians celebrations, while insisting Wilson is still a good guy. A caller from Ashtabula backs Ken on the Guardians but rips the Browns' late clock management, the missed extra point and the halftime timeout decision, which Ken agrees is fair to be mad about.

Can the Guardians Really Cover for a Browns Loss to the Jets?

After Todd Monken vows to own the loss, Ken and Nick Pedone go through fan reactions on X, including the claim that Ken is making excuses for Isaiah Bond and the people demanding he act mad. Ken refuses to fake anger because the Guardians' ALCS run outweighs a week five loss, while Nick argues 4-1 would have meant playoff talk and now worries about the run game, depth and penalties. They debate whether this team is a seven-win overachiever or headed for a bottom-four finish, and then argue about whether Seven in Heaven is still on for tomorrow.

Should Browns Fans Be Angry After Losing to the Jets?

Ken Carman says he can't get mad about the Browns' loss in the rain at the Jets because the Guardians clinching the ALCS berth softened the blow. He argues the loss is explainable, pointing to the weather, Deshaun Watson's struggles in bad conditions, turnovers, penalties and special teams. Fill-in host Nick Pedone pushes back that the loss exposed problems the wins were masking, and by the end the show is arguing over whether the playoff talk is dead.

POSTGAME REACTION: Browns lose to the Jets 17-12

Daryl Ruiter and coach Lance Reisland break down the Browns 17-12 loss to the Jets. Deshaun Watson doesn't get much help; the offensive line allows 8 sacks, run game still ineffective; special teams 4th quarter breakdowns plus the defense makes enough plays to win.

Interviews of the week on 92.3 The Fan: Oct. 5-9

Tune in for a selection og guest spots and interviews with the hosts of 92.3 The Fan during the past week. Featuring Nathan Zegura, Nick Kostos, and Jake Asman.

Best of Browns on 92.3 The Fan: Trap game in New York?

Tune in as the hosts of 92.3 The Fan set the scene for the Browns' Week 5 matchup against the Jets. While the Jets are only 1-3, the oddsmakers have pegged the Browns as underdogs. Are the Browns and their fans taking this game for granted? Plus, do the Browns have a legitimate chance at the playoffs, and are the Browns really a good team or just a team with a good record?

Best of The Ken Carman Show with Anthony Lima: Oct. 5-9

In this clip from The Ken Carman Show with Anthony Lima, the hosts break down the Cleveland Guardians' tense playoff run and debate manager Stephen Vogt's controversial yet successful postseason decisions. The conversation shifts to the gridiron as the crew vents their frustrations over the Browns' baffling decision to keep four quarterbacks on the active roster. Finally, producer John catches some hilarious heat from callers over his Philadelphia Eagles fandom and a questionable Browns jacket purchase.

Full Show: Friday, October 9, 2026

Ken Carman and Anthony Lima break down the Cleveland Guardians' dramatic Game 4 victory and discuss Jose Ramirez's legacy-defining home run. They also touch on the Browns' strong 3-1 start, debating whether it is too early to discuss postseason expectations for Deshaun Watson and Todd Monken. The discussion highlights Stephen Vogt's managerial decisions and looks ahead to the pivotal Game 5 in Cleveland. (00:01:55) Guardians Force Game 5 (00:06:37) Playoff Victory Expectations (00:13:21) Browns Playoff Protocol Debate (00:20:15) Guardians Recent Momentum Shift (00:27:00) Tanner Bibee Relief Disaster (00:36:10) Deshaun Watson Offensive Evolution (00:43:12) Stephen Vogt Managerial Style (00:51:25) Jose Ramirez Hitting Rhythm (01:01:02) Managerial Moves Under Fire (01:07:11) Shedeur Sanders Media Spotlight (01:13:12) MLB Rule Change Proposals (01:24:07) Offense Rhythm After Break (01:35:54) Daryl Ruiter Guardians Analysis (01:45:02) Browns Defense Health Concerns (01:52:30) Jose Ramirez Silences Boos (02:00:48) Nathan Zegura Browns Insights (02:08:34) Sean Payton Play Calling (02:19:14) Browns Special Teams Rankings (02:25:32) Office Ice Cream Dispute (02:30:15) Coming In Hot Calls

Hour 1: Ken Slams Nick Wilson Over Browns Playoff 'Protocol' Argument

Ken Carman and Anthony Lima celebrate the Guardians forcing a Game 5 against Chicago after a dominant offensive display and a legendary performance from Jose Ramirez. They also revisit a heated debate with Nick Wilson regarding whether it is too early to discuss playoff expectations for the 3-1 Browns. The conversation covers Stephen Vogt's managerial decisions and the team's history of struggling in front of packed home crowds. (00:01:50) Guardians Force Game 5 (00:04:45) Jose Ramirez Playoff Legacy (00:08:00) Stephen Vogt Managerial Analysis (00:13:23) Home Field Advantage Fears (00:18:50) Chicago Series Momentum Shift (00:26:21) Tanner Bibee Relief Struggles (00:32:49) Browns Playoff Expectations Debate (00:36:08) Deshaun Watson Team Perspective

Hour 2: Stephen Vogt Silences Critics as Guardians Force Game 5

Carmen and Lima analyze the Cleveland Guardians' playoff performance and debate manager Stephen Vogt's high-stakes bullpen maneuvers. The conversation also covers a controversial feature on Shedeur Sanders and potential reforms to the Major League Baseball regular season schedule. (00:01:56) Stephen Vogt Playoff Evaluation (00:05:44) Tanner Bibee Internal Struggles (00:10:28) Guardians Fan Phone Calls (00:15:17) Cleveland Baseball Naming Debate (00:19:20) Game Five Strategy Preview (00:26:32) Shedeur Sanders Magazine Feature (00:32:14) About Last Night Roundup

Hour 3: Daryl Ruiter: Jose Ramirez Is Back and Guardians Have the Momentum

Ken Carman and Anthony Lima break down the Cleveland Guardians' playoff success and Jose Ramirez's return to form after a slow start. Daryl Ruiter joins the program to discuss Steven Vogt's managerial style and the Cleveland Browns' improved outlook under Todd Monken. They also address a heated debate over a producer's questionable decision to switch NFL team loyalties.(00:02:08) Guardians Home Field Debate(00:07:01) Cleveland Playoff Outlook(00:10:05) David Fry's Huge Homer(00:15:46) Daryl Ruiter Joins(00:22:50) Browns Playoff Expectations(00:26:50) The Browns Jacket Controversy(00:34:01) Superstars Thriving Off Boos

Hour 4: Nathan Zegura Slams Robert Mays Over Deshaun Watson Analysis

Nathan Zegura joins Ken and Lima on 92.3 The Fan to defend Deshaun Watson's recent performance while calling out national media critics for ignoring the quarterback's clutch play. They also mediate a hilarious studio conflict over the social etiquette of eating ice cream alone and discuss the Browns' special teams improvement. (00:02:16) Ice Cream Studio Drama (00:06:00) Watson's Clutch Passing Game (00:09:36) Rebutting Robert Mays' Criticism (00:13:07) Sean Payton Calling Plays (00:16:43) Hurricane Pronunciation Debate (00:25:15) Solo Ice Cream Masculinity (00:35:50) Coming In Hot Calls

Comin' In Hot

Is Getting Ice Cream Alone Feminine?

A calm talk about the Browns’ top-five special teams coverage units and Larry Izzo turns into a full-blown feud when Anthony Alandt and John clash over Anthony’s solo ice cream run before the Guardians game. Kayla weighs in, old grudges surface (strawberry pancakes, a Browns jacket and Penn State) and Fan Cash Friday winner Frank from Painesville gets pulled in as the tiebreaker.

Nathan Zegura Says the 3-1 Browns Haven't Played Their Best Football Yet

Ken and Lima talk with Nathan Zegura about the 3-1 Browns, who he says haven't put together 60 good minutes yet but keep finding ways to win, with Deshaun Watson leading three straight game-winning drives. Nathan praises rookie receivers Denzel Boston and KC Concepcion, says Sunday's Jets game is a chance to handle business and not a trap, and defends Watson's deep throws against Robert Mays' criticism. They also cover Marvin Harrison Jr.'s struggles in Arizona, Sean Payton taking back play-calling duties in Denver, and early Super Bowl contenders.

Did White Sox Fans Booing Jose Ramirez Wake Up the Guardians' Star?

Lima relives jumping off the couch for Jose Ramirez's go-ahead home run and argues the White Sox crowd's booing fueled him and may have turned around his whole season. Ken pushes back, saying booing works on LeBron, Jordan and Brady because they control the game with the ball, while a hitter is in a passive spot, though he agrees boos can motivate a whole team. They wrap up with Lima's moral of the story: if the White Sox are ever on the road again, keep booing.

Daryl Ruiter Expects the Guardians to Beat the White Sox in Game 5

Daryl Ruiter tells Ken and Lima he's confident the Guardians win Game 5 and move on to face the Rays, praising Stephen Vogt as a younger Terry Francona, calling Jose Ramirez's turnaround legendary, and worrying about Tanner Bibee's struggles. They also shrug off Jim Thome wearing White Sox gear, then turn to the 3-1 Browns, where Daryl backs raising expectations and gives the update on the injured defensive line before Sunday's Jets game. Daryl and Ken then pile on producer John for buying a Browns jacket as an Eagles fan, calling it weak sauce and quizzing him on Browns championships.

Would the Guardians Really Rather Play Game 5 on the Road?

Ken and Lima take on the idea that the Guardians are better off on the road, and both want Game 5 at home, though Ken worries the extra day off could cool down a lineup that just got hot. Callers praise the deadline pickup of Bailey after his pinch-hit homer sparked the comeback, and they debate the Hunter Gaddis and Cade Smith bullpen decisions. A caller also dreams of a Browns win over the Jets setting up a huge Cleveland sports Monday.

About Last Night: MLB Proposed a Shortened Schedule & Jalon Daniels Victory

Ken and Lima like MLB's proposal to shrink the schedule to 154 games and let the top seeds pick their opponents in the first two rounds, arguing the drama and rivalries are worth the gimmick. They also react to the Buccaneers beating the Cowboys with undrafted rookie Jalen Daniels for their first win without Baker Mayfield. They close on the Cavs' preseason opener, where Peyton Watson's spot-up shooting and rim protection give them hope he can help in a run at the Knicks in the East.

Was Stephen Vogt Right to Trust His Gut With the Guardians' Bullpen?

Ken and Lima go through Stephen Vogt's postseason decisions, from using Tanner Bibee in relief to bringing in Gavin Williams with a five-run lead and sticking with Angel Martinez. They also credit Will Venable for the White Sox's early plan, and callers praise Vogt, point out Jose Ramirez is having fun again, and call the postseason a third season of managing arms. The hour ends with Ken being talked into reading the Cosmopolitan feature on Shedeur Sanders, and he agrees to report back on it.

Social Media Wanted Vogt Gone Until the Guardians Tied the Series

Ken and Lima argue that the online meltdown over Stephen Vogt ignores how wild the postseason always is, defending his Gavin Williams, Angel Martinez and pinch-hitting calls while giving Will Venable credit on the other side. They admit the Tanner Bibee move backfired, but say it backs up why Vogt skipped him in Game 3, and they agree his headspace is an offseason conversation. A caller praises both managers and Chris Antonetti and Mike Chernoff's roster work, and Ken and Lima marvel at how fast Jose Ramirez and Jo Adell went from struggling to carrying the lineup.

Is Saying the Word Playoffs About the 3-1 Browns Really a Crime?

Ken plays his heated exchange with Nick and JP from the day before, where Nick argues that talking playoffs at 3-1 puts the Browns in an awful spot and Ken fires back that everyone is being too sensitive. Ken and Lima explain why they predicted a five-win season (shaky quarterback play, thin depth, little experience), then credit the improved special teams, the coaching and the Browns' three comeback wins. They agree the Browns are a good team with a solid foundation, that the NFL makes quick turnarounds possible, and that nobody's feelings get hurt by saying "playoffs" before Sunday's Jets game.

Do You Expect the Guardians to Win Game 5?

Ken and Lima take calls on whether the Guardians will close out the White Sox in Game 5, and most callers are confident after 18 runs in two games. One caller brings up the old fear that Cleveland teams fail in front of packed home crowds, and Ken and Lima agree it's a longstanding fan trope. They also defend using Tanner Bibee in relief despite the crisis-of-confidence talk, and Ken hints the Guardians should troll back if they finish the comeback after the White Sox's presumptuous moves.

Jose Ramirez Does It Again as Guardians Force a Game 5

Ken and Lima react to Jose Ramirez's huge home run as the Guardians win Game 4, tie the series 2-2 and force a Game 5 against the White Sox. They marvel at how a lineup that couldn't get on base in the first two games now has everybody contributing, and rehash the wild swings of the series, including Tanner Bibee's disaster outing and the fire-the-manager noise on social media. Callers chime in on whether the bullpen was pitching afraid with a big lead, and whether the Guardians should expect to win it all at home.

Daryl Ruiter and Lance Reisland's Browns-Jets Preview for Week 5

Daryl & Lance are back to breakdown what lies ahead of the Browns inn their week 5 matchup against the New York Jets

Full Show: Thursday, October 8, 2026

Ken Carman and Anthony Lima analyze the Cleveland Guardians' Game 3 victory over the Chicago White Sox and the performance of Jose Ramirez. They also evaluate the Cleveland Browns' 3-1 start and the upcoming maturity test against the New York Jets. Additional discussions include Jim Thome's controversial wardrobe choice at the stadium and the producer's decision to switch team allegiances. (00:02:35) Guardians Force Game 4 (00:07:23) Jose Ramirez Performance Analysis (00:13:06) Chicago Baseball Culture Debate (00:20:11) Jim Thome Wardrobe Controversy (00:26:34) Evaluating Thome’s Statue Status (00:31:02) Browns Jets Game Importance (00:40:50) Maturity Of Young Roster (00:46:09) DVOA And Analytics Rankings (00:53:39) Halloween Decoration Rules (01:00:08) Predicting Guardians Series Outcome (01:10:13) Sports Update: Last Night (01:14:53) Producer’s New Browns Jacket (01:20:53) Fan Loyalty Probation Debate (01:32:23) Mary Kay Cabot Interview (01:38:31) Browns Roster Trade Rumors (01:47:39) Roster Strategy Four Quarterbacks (01:58:45) Jason Lloyd Joins Show (02:08:52) Browns Postseason Prediction Check (02:15:42) Avoiding The Playoff Jinx

Hour 1: Jim Thome’s "Disappointing" Wardrobe Choice at Game 3

Ken Carman and Anthony Lima celebrate the Cleveland Guardians staying alive with a Game 3 win while debating the optics of Jim Thome wearing White Sox colors in the stands. They also analyze why the Cleveland Browns' upcoming game against the New York Jets is a critical test for a young roster dealing with success. (00:01:50) Guardians Force Game 4 (00:05:20) Jose Ramirez Rescues Guardians (00:13:05) Guardians Pitching Advantages (00:19:15) Jim Thome's Statue Controversy (00:31:05) Browns Face Critical Test (00:37:50) Todd Monken and Handling Success

Hour 2: Browns Maturity Test vs Jets & Guardians Playoff Shift

Ken Carman and Anthony Lima analyze if the 3-1 Browns are legitimate contenders or a fraudulent team using advanced DVOA metrics. They pivot to the Cleveland Guardians' postseason comeback and engage in a humorous discussion about neighborhood Halloween decorations and personal sports fandom. (00:01:23) Browns Maturity Test (00:05:45) Browns Advanced Metrics (00:13:43) Halloween Decoration Debates (00:20:23) Guardians Playoff Momentum (00:30:25) MLB Playoff Roundup (00:35:20) Controversial Browns Jacket

Hour 3: Mary Kay Cabot: Ravens Game Is a Bigger Test Than the Jets

Ken Carman and Anthony Lima debate whether a producer can switch fan loyalty from the Eagles to the Browns after purchasing a team jacket. Mary Kay Cabot joins to analyze why the division clash with the Ravens carries more weight than the Jets game. They also examine the logistics of keeping four quarterbacks on the roster and Deshaun Watson's late-game reliability. (00:02:20) Producer John Fan Loyalty (00:06:40) Callers Debate Team Switching (00:15:05) Mary Kay Cabot Interview (00:21:23) Jerry Jeudy Trade Rumors (00:26:03) Browns Four Quarterback Dilemma (00:37:03) Deshaun Watson Performance Analysis

Hour 4: Jason Lloyd on Jim Thome Statue Drama & Browns Playoff Hopes

Jason Lloyd joins Ken Carman and Anthony Lima to discuss the controversy surrounding Jim Thome's loyalty and his statue in Cleveland. They break down the Guardians' postseason performance and analyze if the Browns are legitimate playoff contenders after their 3-1 start. (00:02:01) Jason Lloyd Interview (00:05:33) Guardians Postseason Analysis (00:11:58) Browns Record And Expectations (00:16:15) Deshaun Watson And League Mistakes (00:20:56) The Playoff Superstition Debate (00:24:42) Jose Ramirez Value Discussion (00:31:24) Producer John Switches Fandom (00:35:00) Retired Number Regrets

Every Team Has One Statue or Retired Number It Would Take Back

Ken and Lima say the reaction to producer John's Browns jacket has never been so split, warning him that Eagles fans and Browns fans will both turn on him if he flip-flops, while also ripping Nick for claiming credit for 8-9 after predicting Deshaun Watson would lose games. They then return to the Jim Thome statue, arguing that statues are a big deal and that every organization has someone it would not honor again if it could, citing Nate Thurmond for the Cavs and Joe DeLamielleure for the Browns. The show wraps with thanks to Mary Kay Cabot and Jason Lloyd and a plug for live reaction to the late-night Guardians game.

Is Ken Angering the Football Gods by Saying the P-Word?

A caller named Dan begs Ken to stop saying "playoffs" about the 3-1 Browns before he invites a plague of injuries, and Ken fires back that Vince Lombardi has bigger things to worry about while still warning the team is thin and Deshaun Watson could fall apart. Ken and Lima then ask if they can finally stop complaining about Jose Ramirez in the postseason, with Ken arguing that he is playing through a significant injury and that Angel Martinez and the young hitters are pressing. They close by arguing that seeing the White Sox relievers multiple times has planted seeds of doubt, and that the Guardians now get their best starters.

Jason Lloyd Won't Walk Back His Jim Thome Take & Likes the Guardians' Odds

Jason Lloyd refuses to walk back his criticism of Jim Thome's all-black outfit, saying he only wanted a gray shirt out of respect for the organization that gave him a statue. He explains why the off days finally favor the Guardians in Game 4, says Jose Ramirez gets a pass this postseason because of his health, and expects Tanner Bibee to have a role in the ALCS. He also still isn't picking the Browns to make the playoffs despite calling the Jets game a pivot point, and he fires off a Mercedes-for-a-used-Honda jab at producer John's Browns jacket before the call turns chaotic.

Keeping Four Quarterbacks Is a Decision for Losers

Ken rejects the Browns' plan to keep four quarterbacks, arguing that a 3-1 team chasing the playoffs needs the roster spots for depth on the offensive and defensive lines, and that Dillon Gabriel could be flipped for an asset once his 21-day window runs out. He and Lima then debate whether Nick can take a victory lap on the 3-1 start after predicting 8-9 while saying Deshaun Watson would lose his games, with both agreeing Watson deserves credit for three fourth-quarter comeback wins. Ken also shoots down the idea that a rookie quarterback who dazzled in the preseason is needed in the red zone, since the offense is already scoring touchdowns there.

Mary Kay Cabot Says the Ravens Game Is Bigger Than the Jets Game

Mary Kay Cabot disagrees with Ken, arguing that the home divisional game against the Ravens carries more weight than the trap-game potential at the Jets, while saying the Browns are 3-1 despite poor advanced numbers because they are still figuring things out. She gives injury updates on Mike Hall Jr. and Mason Graham, explains why Jerry Jeudy likely isn't being traded, defends Shedeur Sanders against the "pouting" clip, and says the team prefers to keep all four quarterbacks. Ken and Lima also ask her about producer John's Browns jacket, and she says he should keep his Eagles fandom and just add the Browns.

Has John Earned the Right To Be a Browns Fan After Eight Months?

Ken and Lima put producer John's new Browns jacket to a vote after the Eagles trade Cam Jurgens, with Ken arguing that obscene loyalty is the calling card of a Browns fan and three months in Cleveland isn't enough. Callers split, with one offering to approve the jacket if John stomps a Philly cheesesteak on video, while others rip his lack of loyalty and whiny Eagles takes. The hosts also ask if he'll jump to the Guardians or Texans next, and look ahead to Mary Kay Cabot and Jason Lloyd on the Browns-Jets game and the Guardians' series chances.

About Last Night: Daaaaa Yankees Lose & Producer John's New Browns Jacket

In About Last Night, Ken and Lima celebrate the Yankees' elimination, sympathize with Brandon Gaudin having to call the Dodgers' clincher on short notice, and break down the fan interference calls from the playoffs. They then react to the Eagles trading Cam Jurgens, which sets up a debate over whether producer John, a die-hard Eagles fan, has earned the right to wear his new $60 Browns jacket. The hosts put it to the listeners, with Ken offering to buy the jacket for his son if the fans say no.

Do the Guardians Win This Series Now After Jose Ramirez Came Alive?

Ken and Lima open with Halloween decorations, and a caller named Czar brags about his homemade haunted house complete with original spooky music. They then turn to the Guardians, debating whether Jo Adell's big hit and a team-wide offensive breakout changed the series, with one host feeling much better while the other stays reserved at 2-1 on the road with Parker Messick going in Game 4. They also ask if everyone is finally done complaining about Jose Ramirez in the postseason, and point out how results-based the Steven Vogt and Ramirez criticism has been.